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  New vipera ammodytes

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PostSubject: New vipera ammodytes   Fri 28 Feb - 16:27

This is my new vipera ammodytes. I am unsure of its locality. if anyone out there knows where this snake mite come from i would love to know!!







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PostSubject: Re: New vipera ammodytes   Fri 28 Feb - 21:18

Hi Nate,

thgi looks a like a southern ammodytes form. Like Lake Scutari or Ada Island / Montenegro. But you can find such looking ammodytes along the coastline of former ,,Yugoslavia´´ at other spots too. So a 100% defination is nearly impossible.
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PostSubject: Re: New vipera ammodytes   Mon 3 Mar - 9:30

Thank you Peter for the feed back...I some what suspected lake Scutari but I understand that it is nearly impossible to guess the locality, I just thought that maybe there was some kind if tell tail sign that would make it possible to get a near exact local.
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PostSubject: Re: New vipera ammodytes   Mon 3 Mar - 18:02

Hi Nate,

,,Lake Scutari'' is more a marketing name now. In the past some vipers comes realy from the soroundings of this very large lake in the border region of Albania and Montenegro.
But over the years, a lot of vipers was collected around in Montenegro, and this looks not differend to the origin ones. I think, there's no difference! There is a very high diversity of differend colors in this part of distribution. You found nearly all colors of the taxon ammodytes. Not only the very colorfull ones, you can find in the same area also typical gray ones, that looks not like ,,lake Skutari''
More noth in Slovenia, you have also spots with reddish and yellowish ammodytes, named ,,Novo Mestro'' but in Croatia and Serbia you find also colorfull ones and and and...
I have hear from prople that mixed locations, to get more and more yello or red ones. They priduce more a color breeding line than a location breeding line. Not the best idee I think.
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PostSubject: Re: New vipera ammodytes   Mon 12 May - 16:33

Sorry Peter for the delayed response....Thank you for the excellent feed back. You seem quite knowledgeable about vipera ammodytes.
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PostSubject: Re: New vipera ammodytes   Mon 12 May - 16:36

Hi Nate,
thanks fir the kind wirds. V. ammodytes is my ,, all time favorite''
Over the years I change something in my collections, but I was never without a ammodytes!
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PostSubject: Re: New vipera ammodytes   Mon 12 May - 17:23

Peter, that is exactly how i am with crotalus atrox. they seem to be looked at as more of a trash snake than any thing where i live. I am absolutely in love with C.atrox tho. I think its there impressive size,massive head,attitude and reputation that i am attracted to. my collection is mainly rattlesnakes  but no matter how many of the various  crotalus and sistrurus i acquire ,the collection never feels complete with out a nice big impressive C.atrox....this is buba, my massive C.atrox. He is well over 5ft and huge around...I would say the best thing to compare his girth to would be a size 12 boot or shoe. He is not over weight he is just built very thick and stout...I would say 11 inches around his body.....here's a bad cell phone picture
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PostSubject: Re: New vipera ammodytes   Tue 13 May - 16:22

Yes, a very impressive snake. Such of that kind, I don't want overlook when I will walk along...
I can't imagine how it will feel when this one start to rattle behind me😬
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PostSubject: Re: New vipera ammodytes   Wed 26 Oct - 0:12

I SOOOOO want a pair of these. Anyone in the US have them to sell.? Email me turner12971@gmail.com
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