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 My vipera ammodytes

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Kiril Vulkanov

Number of posts : 19
Age : 28
Location : Bulgaria
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Registration date : 2013-05-22

PostSubject: Re: My vipera ammodytes   Wed 12 Jun - 17:38

I thought to add cork in form a tree that i got for the bedding.. in mix with sand and coco substrate.. but i thought that the bark could bring mites or so.. No
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Peter van Issem
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Number of posts : 707
Age : 51
Location : GERMANY
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Registration date : 2009-03-08

PostSubject: Re: My vipera ammodytes   Thu 13 Jun - 1:02

Why you think the bark can bring mites? When you not sure, if it was in a terraria with mites before, place them in the oven with 200°C for some time (mabye 30 Minutes), I´m sure the mites will not survive. But you muste be sure, that the temps reach each part.
Or take something from outdoor. I never got mites when I used natural parts from outside. When I got mites, I got them from other stocks.
Sand and coco subtrate I use only for my tropical vipers. Not very natural to keep ammodytes on Coco ground.
You live in Bulgaria, you have only to go somewhere and have a look to see what you have to doe. I live in Germany, not the ,,home´´ of anny ammodytes. But, I take stones from outdoor too, place a dry root and dry oak- or  beech-leaves from outside. Maby a dry bush or some dry grass will be ok also. And ! Don´t doe to much! Let them come down, it takes some time, but doing to much is mostly ,,to much´´! If they display signs of sicknes you have to react, if not - take a drink, be cool and look!
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Rainer Fesser

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Location : Austria
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PostSubject: Re: My vipera ammodytes   Fri 14 Jun - 4:29

Hello Kiril,

the temperature data as well as the hints for the soil Peter Zürcher gave you are accurate, the night-temperature must be significantly lower than the day-temp. And also at daytime it is important that the animals can retreat to a cooler place.
Also if you take some material from outside and there are snakes living in that area, heat it up to 80° (not enough for desinfection but easily enough for mites and their eggs) or pour it thoroughly with boiling water. If I would do what Peter van Issem can do in his place, I could easily get mites into my terraria as there are quite a lot of snakes (naturally) around my house and they also have their parasites on them.

"The enclosure is near the window." - Make sure that the sun can never overheat the terrarium. You know better than I how hot summers can be in Bulgaria and even a bit of heat from the sun in addition to the "normal" room-temperature in summer can be a big risk. 1°C above the optimum-temp of a snake makes it feel uneasy, 2-3° can be lethal. Therefore always offer them a cool place.

Why do you think the female is a V. a. montandoni? If I look at her tail on the photo in the link you gave us, I would not say she is. Did you get more information about the origin (geographical)? If she is and the males are not, you would breed hybrids with these animals.

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