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Albert Gracer
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PostSubject: Some pics of my hots   Fri 9 Mar - 5:43

Today friend of mine visited me at my home and we took some pictures of my hots.
Hope you like it.

Vipera ammodytes male


Atheris squamigera female


The same female some weeks ago after shed


Crotalus atrox female


Cryptelytrops albolabris female


Naja siamensis male



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PostSubject: Re: Some pics of my hots   Sun 10 Jun - 20:57

Cerastes cerastes female


Atheris squamigera male


Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix female


Vipera ammodytes meridionalis male
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PostSubject: Re: Some pics of my hots   Mon 11 Jun - 0:37

Well,

my favourite are your Atheris
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PostSubject: Re: Some pics of my hots   Tue 12 Jun - 0:25

Waouwww, they are as beautiful as the other one and what quality of photos.

My favorite is the Cryptelytrops albolabris I love you

Congratulations !
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PostSubject: Re: Some pics of my hots   Tue 12 Jun - 5:34

nice collection sr, really like them all. by the way do you have pics of its cages??
regards
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PostSubject: Re: Some pics of my hots   Wed 13 Jun - 1:18

Glad that you like them, thanks.
Well here are some of the terrariums.

Atheris squamigera


Vipera ammodytes meridionalis


Crotalus atrox


Naja siamensis


Cryptelytrops albolabris


Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix
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PostSubject: Re: Some pics of my hots   Wed 13 Jun - 1:25

Hi Albert ;

In addition to being gifted in photography you are gifted in terrarium decorations and fittings, they are splendid !

Best...
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PostSubject: Re: Some pics of my hots   Sat 23 Jun - 3:47

I love the set-ups. Nothing better than a naturalistic viv.
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PostSubject: Re: Some pics of my hots   Fri 6 Jul - 21:29

Lee Reeve wrote:
I love the set-ups. Nothing better than a naturalistic viv.

Have to agree & the animals look great, well done.
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PostSubject: Re: Some pics of my hots   Tue 11 Sep - 5:43

Today I got my long-awaited pair (I hope so) of Echis carinatus sochureki and I could not resist to photograph them Very Happy

Here are some pics...






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PostSubject: Re: Some pics of my hots   Tue 11 Sep - 8:27

Albert Gracer wrote:
Today I got my long-awaited pair (I hope so) of Echis carinatus sochureki and I could not resist to photograph them Very Happy
and ... you had good reason to take these photos.
Gorgeous !

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PostSubject: Re: Some pics of my hots   Thu 13 Sep - 19:29

Can anyone here tell me from this picture for sure if it is a pair of Echis carinatus sochureki? I was thinking that on the left side could be a male, because of its smaller head and it is not so heavy builded and it is a bit smaller. Their tails are by their size now pretty much in the same length. Both are good eaters. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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PostSubject: Re: Some pics of my hots   Thu 13 Sep - 20:28

Hello Albert,
From this view they both look like females to me. They look like juveniles/semiadults which makes it more difficult too. Probing would make you sure.
With a photo from underneath it would be easier, and you can do scale-counts (SC) from underneath more easily which may tell you their sex too but not with absolute certainty.

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PostSubject: Re: Some pics of my hots   Fri 14 Sep - 3:38

Hi Rainer,
Thanks for the reply, I think you're right. Today I photograph them from underneath and do the scale-count from the neck to the tail several times by both. The smaller one has them about 168 and the bigger one about 170. Then I was trying to find any information on ventral scales for this subspecies but I had no success. The only reliable information is that the males have much longer tail than the females, what is not in this case. Both animals were send to me as a pair from this year.
Now I have to find a real male who will be glad of these two girls Smile

Here are some pics from the underneath

Smaller one


Bigger one
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PostSubject: Re: Some pics of my hots   Fri 14 Sep - 4:12

Hi Albert,

the shape of the tails also looks like females´tails but the count of the subcaudalia is 21-22 in the smaller and over 25 in the bigger specimen as far as I can count them from your photos. The difference between these two counts can mean that you have a pair. Can you tube and probe them? Maybe you can make photos of the tails or the original photos have a better resolution than the compressed ones on Venomland and you can make an exact count.
The SC-count usually tells you more than the ventralia as the numbers have less overlapping. 168 versus 170 is almost no difference but these numbers may be in the overlapping-zone.

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PostSubject: Re: Some pics of my hots   Fri 14 Sep - 6:00

Hi Rainer,
From the pictures above I did a cut of their tails for a better view and by both I count about 29 subcaudalia so I guess that does not make sense to probe them.
Btw. thanks for your help, I appreciate it.

Here are the pics...
Smaller female


Bigger female
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PostSubject: Re: Some pics of my hots   Fri 14 Sep - 16:48

Hi Albert,

you´re right. 29 in both means both probably are the same sex and the tails´shapes are typical for females.
I magnified your first photos but the resolution was so weak that the I couldn´t count the subcaudal scales properly.

I wonder why none of the forum-members that keep (and maybe breed) Echis posted an answer.????

I wish you luck in finding a suitable male soon,
Rainer
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PostSubject: Re: Some pics of my hots   Sat 15 Sep - 2:22

Sorry, I can't help with the identification, but those are some truly gorgeous animals! I haven't seen many of those species before, but A. contorix is a very familiar sight where I live, and that is a very accurate habitat for one! I believe that those Atheris have to be one of my new favorite snakes. Amazing work!
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PostSubject: Re: Some pics of my hots   Tue 18 Sep - 3:37

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PostSubject: Re: Some pics of my hots   Tue 18 Sep - 4:24

very nice very nice snakes and cages man great job, thanks for the pics keep posting
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PostSubject: Re: Some pics of my hots   Sat 22 Sep - 1:30

Today they get some crickets Very Happy



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PostSubject: Re: Some pics of my hots   Sat 22 Sep - 5:59

These are very good babies. Albert, they are both female for sure. The males have longer tails and a different shaped head.
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PostSubject: Re: Some pics of my hots   Sat 1 Dec - 5:54

Botriechis schlegelii




Sistrurus miliarius streckeri


Sistrurus miliarius barbouri


Trimeresurus puniceus
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PostSubject: Re: Some pics of my hots   Sat 1 Dec - 6:05

Wow, you have an awesome collection! I especially love the Echis....I really want to own these someday.
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PostSubject: Re: Some pics of my hots   Sat 1 Dec - 22:57

Very nice colection. I'm white envy Very Happy
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