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Albert J. Montejo
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PostSubject: Re: Leptodeira annulata    Sat 31 Mar - 5:58

No ! blatantly i would not agree , see the difference between academics such as yourself and even Henderson and my person is in the volume of specimens ive seen observed personally i started out as an academic but was thrust in to "the role" which i had no choice but to accept to meet my ends, unfortunately or vice versa " time will tell " could have only been aquired in numbers and time more than three decades.

In just one decade i examined more than three thousand Northern Shield Emerald Tree Boas alone by preparing for export and providing a blueprint for hygeine of the facilities.

So in conclusion i was upset to collect either one of the afore mentioned specimens and maybe i collected old specimens but they were quite large especially imantodes .

How can this be you say , i dont know, thats why i was wondering if there were subspecies of Leptodeira annulata in Suriname, in Ecuador a fellow maintained the largest Bothriopsis smaragadina ive ever seen thick and all of three feet long.

Luis Porras of the shed friend of both of us when you lived down here in Florida maintained a Yellow Eyelash Viper as large as any Emerald Tree Boa , i think you saw this specimen , so go figure.

So Micheal, in ending i believe folks are missing the point because the keyword here "juvenile Lachesis muta muta " which as you know are not much thicker than the afore mentioned species .
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PostSubject: Re: Leptodeira annulata    Sat 31 Mar - 5:58

No ! blatantly i would not agree , see the difference between academics such as yourself and even Henderson and my person is in the volume of specimens ive seen observed personally i started out as an academic but was thrust in to "the role" which i had no choice but to accept to meet my ends, unfortunately or vice versa " time will tell " could have only been aquired in numbers and time more than three decades.

In just one decade i examined more than three thousand Northern Shield Emerald Tree Boas alone by preparing for export and providing a blueprint for hygeine of the facilities.

So in conclusion i was upset to collect either one of the afore mentioned specimens and maybe i collected old specimens but they were quite large especially imantodes .

How can this be you say , i dont know, thats why i was wondering if there were subspecies of Leptodeira annulata in Suriname, in Ecuador a fellow maintained the largest Bothriopsis smaragadina ive ever seen thick and all of three feet long.

Luis Porras of the shed friend of both of us when you lived down here in Florida maintained a Yellow Eyelash Viper as large as any Emerald Tree Boa , i think you saw this specimen , so go figure.

So Micheal, in ending i believe folks are missing the point because the keyword here "juvenile Lachesis muta muta " which as you know are not much thicker than the afore mentioned species .
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PostSubject: Re: Leptodeira annulata    Sat 31 Mar - 6:29

Hans Boos says of Leptodeira annulata "with markings superficially like those of the bushmaster or mapepire zanana, Lachesis muta, it stands little chance of not being killed when it turns up in food-rich gardens in the countryside or towns." He further tells of the bushmaster being confused with the boa constrictor on Trinidad.

-Hans E. A. Boos (The Sankes of Trinidad and Tabago)

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PostSubject: Re: Leptodeira annulata    Sat 31 Mar - 18:31

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The triangular head only looks threatening because other species with triangular heads are threatening.

Hi. That is not the only point for mimicry...
Because the triangulation evolved different times and not evertime equal to "threatening species like vipers", I would not say it is a mimicry in general.
To look bigger is always a good defensive strategy, same like hissing (Heterodon, Malpolon e.g. )

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PostSubject: Re: Leptodeira annulata    Sun 29 Apr - 1:29

I'm very interested in achieving your experiences with switching over feeding items to pinkies or bigger mice. This, because their is a Dutch importer selling Leptodeira annulata. Subspecies unknown.
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PostSubject: Leptodeira annulata    Sun 29 Apr - 6:09

Tommy,

It is basically a scent transfer technique- a) you will have to have a prey item (such as a frog) that the cat eyed snake will eat on its own; b) to get the snake to eat a pink, rub the frog onto a dead pink (transferring the scent) and introduce it to the snake during the evening hours when it is active - the trick here is to slowly introduce the scented pink and not to startle the snake; if it doesn't take it from the forceps, leave the pink in the snake's cage to see if it eats it overnight ; c) if the scent transfer technique doesn't work after several attempts, you will have to kill a frog and scent the pink with the frog as well as stick one of the frog's dismembered legs into the pink's mouth; this works fairly well. I have got cat eyed snakes to accept pinks by these methods, but not every snake can be switched over. Sometimes it takes a number of attempts before it works.

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PostSubject: Re: Leptodeira annulata    Sun 29 Apr - 6:21

As Michael said
It is quite easy to transfer most snakes from frogs to mice!
Almost every species I kept, worked with this trick.

With lizards or anything else, I had not such good results like with frogs.
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