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Tanja Schmidt
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PostSubject: Vipera ammodytes ammodytes   Mon 6 Feb - 23:44

Yesterday was the time I was able to collect my couple of ammodytes. They are CB 2011 from Montenegro - Skutari lake.
I have so much fun with my V.aspis I hope the ammodytes will be the same.
Sadly theyīre both a bit pale at the moment. As I visit them the first time the female had a nice yellow and the male a bright orange. So Iīm looking forward for the next shed and be excited about the colors after.

I took a first few pictures:











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PostSubject: Re: Vipera ammodytes ammodytes   Tue 7 Feb - 0:43

Hi Tanya I think this would qualify better under the photosection, nice pics
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera ammodytes ammodytes   Tue 7 Feb - 2:28

If itīs wrong here the admins can feel free to copy it at the photosection.

Does anybody know here about inheritance at V. ammodytes? Is it like corns depending on Mendel?
I know the parents, the female is bright yellow and the male is dark red. He is the most beautiful V. ammodytes Iīve seen to date. They breed yellow, orange and red siblings.
Not that Iīm interested at making new morphs, like corn or python breeders but it would be interesting to know if it is possible that my ones have perhaps heterozygous predispositions.
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera ammodytes ammodytes   Tue 7 Feb - 5:36

Hello Tanja,

it is depending on Mendelīs rules but....

Itīs not just red or orange or..., as their color is not depending on just one certain gene. If you have a - letīs say - red V.ammod. and you donīt know the ancestors, you can get any color that is possible in that population among its offspring.
I bred Skutari - bright red X bright red (wc) - first generation: a few red ones, the rest: Any color.

If you breed their red offspring you get a higher percentage of red ones in the litters with every generation, from 3rd, 4th generation on (depending on the ancestors of the first breeding pair) yo get mainly but rarely only red ones.

This makes it more interesting, doesnīt it?

I wish you much fun with these beauties and luck in breeding them later,
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera ammodytes ammodytes   Tue 7 Feb - 19:44

Thanks for the answer. I see this could be very interesting. So Iīm looking forward to breed them in some years. And perhaps I breed a nice little red one as beauty as his grandfather too.
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera ammodytes ammodytes   Tue 7 Feb - 20:35

"And perhaps I breed a nice little red one as beauty as his grandfather too." - The chances are very good, they probably carry his genes.
And your pair will become more colorful with time, you can look forward to that. Keep us updated please.
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera ammodytes ammodytes   Tue 7 Feb - 20:47

They were more colorful too as I visit them last year. I think they came to shed in near time.

I will make new pictures after the next shed
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera ammodytes ammodytes   Mon 27 Feb - 1:49

The male after shed today. Shot without flash, so the color is nearly original Shocked

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PostSubject: Re: Vipera ammodytes ammodytes   Mon 27 Feb - 3:45

Hello Tanja,

that looks very promising. A nice guy that will probably get more orange later.

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