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 Desert Lancehead (Bothrops pictus)

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PostSubject: Desert Lancehead (Bothrops pictus)   Sun 19 Dec - 14:09

Hi folks:

In my computer had pics of Desert Lancehead, the common name is "Jergon de Costa". The sps are: Bothrops pictus and Bothrops roedingeri.

Many people talk about two sps, another people is the same...

In my opinion is the same sp.

What is your opinion?? listen about these sps??

Greetings from Perú

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PostSubject: Re: Desert Lancehead (Bothrops pictus)   Sun 19 Dec - 16:59

Could be the same species but I'm not that much of an expert. They have different colour. Better shot of the head would be helpfull. There is a lot so called species really being psevdonyms for only one species. Also with Acanthophis genus and Oxyuranus scutellatus and some other. When more mtDna tests will be made we'll have a better understanding hopefully.

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PostSubject: Re: Desert Lancehead (Bothrops pictus)   Sun 19 Dec - 23:42

Unfortunatly, the most recent phylogenetic study of the Bothrops, the one which suggests splitting the genus into five genera (Bothrops, Bothrocophias, Bothriopsis, Rhinocerophis and Bothropoides), did not include B. roedingeri in their analysis...
I don't think the taxon has been included in any phylogenetic analysis so far... I'm guessing that Campbell and Lamar (2004) probably discussed the taxon but I don't have the book on me at the moment...

Here is a link to the paper on the revision of the Bothrops genus which I previously mentioned:
http://biology.ucf.edu/~clp/publications/Fenwicketal.pdf
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PostSubject: Re: Desert Lancehead (Bothrops pictus)   Sun 26 Dec - 10:21

BKK:

The DNA study is very important for these sps.. because the morphology is very same in many cases..

Alex:
Thx for the article, i was reading, and is very interesting.

In my job (serpentarium) have many desert lanceheads, and i will take a pics of head...

Greetings from Perú

p.d. Send the another Bothrops roedingeri pic

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PostSubject: Re: Desert Lancehead (Bothrops pictus)   Wed 5 Jan - 13:16

Hi folks:

here, more pics..

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PostSubject: Re: Desert Lancehead (Bothrops pictus)   Thu 20 Jan - 13:14

Hi folks:

more pics (Nilton take the pics).

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PostSubject: Re: Desert Lancehead (Bothrops pictus)   Fri 21 Jan - 3:43

Beautiful lance-heads, Walter ! Wish I would have enough room to also keep some Bothrops (sensu lato)... Thanks for sharing !
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PostSubject: Re: Desert Lancehead (Bothrops pictus)   Fri 21 Jan - 4:42

Lanceheads are really something special. I'd like to include B.Asper, B.Alternatus and B.Insularis once in my collection. Owesome genus. Nice animals Walter.

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PostSubject: Re: Desert Lancehead (Bothrops pictus)   Fri 21 Jan - 5:09

Wonderfull pics Walter, wish you goodluck with them. love that snakes. As Bostjan said, they are something special.
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PostSubject: Re: Desert Lancehead (Bothrops pictus)   Sat 22 Jan - 2:45

Hi folks:

The lanceheads are very nice snakes. I love them...hehehe



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PostSubject: Re: Desert Lancehead (Bothrops pictus)   Fri 11 Mar - 12:25

Hi folks, in this time i have two desert lanceheads in my job, they are very nice and stay in shedding...for the next time i will post more pics...

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PostSubject: Re: Desert Lancehead (Bothrops pictus)   Fri 11 Mar - 13:31

They had to call them Bothrops vipera

or Bothrops berus

(with a little fantasy it looks like...) Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Desert Lancehead (Bothrops pictus)   Thu 17 Mar - 13:39

Johann,

the morph is similar.

Here, more pics...


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PostSubject: Re: Desert Lancehead (Bothrops pictus)   Sat 23 Apr - 14:39

wowow neevre seen this ones befor, quite amazing, congrats you hav a grat collection mi friend
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