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Alexander Ang
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PostSubject: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo   Fri 10 Dec - 4:01

Currently, my crown jewel: a female Tropidolaemus subannulatus (maculatus) from Western Borneo.


Shots of the two males...





*Erroneous labels* not wagleri but subannulatus (Borneo morph)



I'm hoping to breed them once I get some info on how to best introduce them; prime breeding season etc.

Cheers and best regards
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PostSubject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo   Fri 10 Dec - 4:30

Wow she is awesome
love her coloration!!!
how long you keep her right now??
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PostSubject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo   Fri 10 Dec - 5:13

Beautiful snakes Alex!
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PostSubject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo   Fri 10 Dec - 8:42

Thanks guys, I acquired her from a rural village in the interior of Western Borneo close to the Kalimantan border in early September... she looks quite old though... from what I can tell.
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PostSubject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo   Fri 10 Dec - 14:55

The female looks incredible, I do not know much about this species, is it a dimorphism?Or why looks the female different to the males?

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PostSubject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo   Fri 10 Dec - 20:39

Very nice snake
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PostSubject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo   Sat 11 Dec - 0:16

Fabian Dirks wrote:
The female looks incredible, I do not know much about this species, is it a dimorphism?Or why looks the female different to the males?


yes Fabian, very prominent dimorphism in Tropidolaemus...

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PostSubject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo   Sun 12 Dec - 2:04


Wow, beautiful wagleri female... I envy you Wink ...
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PostSubject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo   Tue 14 Dec - 16:25

Predrag Ristic wrote:

Wow, beautiful wagleri female... I envy you Wink ...

Sorry, those pic labels are erroneous... the species has recently been re-described as Tropidolaemus subannulatus (maculatus); with a possible sub-speciation designated to Borneo.

Thanks all the same... Cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo   Sun 26 Dec - 18:02

Really Nice Tropidolaemus you got there.
Ooo and i see that you live in Kuching, my absolute favourite place in asia

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PostSubject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo   Mon 27 Dec - 15:17

Daniel Högberg wrote:
Really Nice Tropidolaemus you got there.
Ooo and i see that you live in Kuching, my absolute favourite place in asia

Regards Daniel

Thanks Daniel... If you ever come down these neck of the woods in the near future... let me know...

Cheers & best regards
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PostSubject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo   Wed 26 Jan - 5:41

fantastic, just fantastic
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PostSubject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo   Wed 26 Jan - 8:17

Fabian Dirks wrote:
The female looks incredible, I do not know much about this species, is it a dimorphism?Or why looks the female different to the males?

Yes Fabian for many years it was not possible to pair Tropidolaemus (Trimeresurus as they were then) as no one realised the dimorphism any imported males were probably sold as some other Trimeresurus species due to thier retaining juvenile colouration and only attaining half the size of females fortunately a lot more is known about them now.

fantastic specimens Alexander more photo's please? Very Happy


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PostSubject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo   Wed 26 Jan - 8:31

to add -
Alexander does subannulatus have the same placid temperament as wagleri?
and I'm guessing the Gonoysoma in the background is far worse!
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PostSubject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo   Wed 26 Jan - 10:34

She's a stunner!
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PostSubject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo   Thu 27 Jan - 3:14

Tim Hallam wrote:
to add -
Alexander does subannulatus have the same placid temperament as wagleri?
and I'm guessing the Gonoysoma in the background is far worse!

ok... from what I can tell... T. subannulatus is a step more feisty than T. wagleri... though I've read that this Borneo morph has potential for distinct speciation from T. subannulatus as T. maculatus based on the latest Tropidolaemus review. I've kept the molts in hopes of posting them to any keen researchers for DNA analysis in comparison with specimens of T. subsnnulatus from Mindanao to ascertain their phylogenical relationship.. hint any takers?

...as for the Gonyosoma... what I find intriguing is the hypothesis of defensive mimicry with regards to the coloration and the behavior... it would seem that this colubrid is a Cryptelytrops mimic.
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PostSubject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo   Tue 29 Mar - 4:52

Alexander Ang wrote:
Daniel Högberg wrote:
Really Nice Tropidolaemus you got there.
Ooo and i see that you live in Kuching, my absolute favourite place in asia

Regards Daniel

Thanks Daniel... If you ever come down these neck of the woods in the near future... let me know...

Cheers & best regards

Late reply Smile
I am planing a trip to Borneo in september, and of course i must stop by Kuching and Bako NP. Miss those proboscis Smile
Maybe you can tip me on some good spots around Kuching.
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PostSubject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo   Sat 12 May - 20:04

Alexander, Absolutely stunning snakes. Got to say they are the best looking Trops I have seen to date. I look forward to hearing if you manage to breed these in future.

Also I would be obliged if you could forward me(PM) any papers or info you might have in regards the re-classification of the current T.sub group.

Thanks in advance.

Neil


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PostSubject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo   Sun 13 May - 2:12

This is a breathtaking beauty Shocked I love you

Congratulations Alexander ..
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PostSubject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo   Tue 10 Jul - 2:08

beautiful female, real stunner
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PostSubject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo   Fri 14 Dec - 19:42

I recently did an enclosure upgrade for my 2.1.0 Borneo Temple Pit Vipers

Finally in an enclosure that can accommodate 3 of them together and this is what ensued

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PostSubject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo   Sat 15 Dec - 1:04

Just Shot this one, of the mated pair



Anyone here bred these before? Could do with some advice..
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PostSubject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo   Sat 15 Dec - 3:13

Hello Alexander,

firstly I would like to say congratulation ! Its always nice to see the genus Tropidolaemus mating in captivity.The female looks great,especially like its coloration.Do You know the exact locality of Yours ? Did You drop temperature to stimulate the mating?
I will cross my fingers for it !

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PostSubject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo   Sat 15 Dec - 5:52

Yes, Radovan you're right... mating occurred after an acute drop in temperature.... the female was un-receptive prior to that. As for the locality; all 3 were caught within the same locale in Western Borneo close to the border between Sarawak and Kalimantan... why do you ask? Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Tropidolaemus subannulatus from Borneo   Sat 15 Dec - 15:45

Hey Alexander,

very nice animals and cage setting, I like the "natural way" a lot. Interesting pictures too, especially the copulating picture, didn´t see this before. It´s said, that the difference in size of the sexes in Green Anaconda (Eunectes murinus) is the greatest in all vertebrates. After seeing you pictures I´m in doubt if this is really true and in fact should count for Tropidalaemus ssp.

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