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Peter van Issem
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera palaestinae....   Wed 2 Mar - 2:19

I have to check, if I have some datas in my File-o-fax from the last years. But i think ,, around 2 months创....but not sure. Mating I observed in late April (one time) and eggs one time in End of May and one time in June. But both times the eggs wasn磘 good! I don磘 incubate them.
After this, I sell the group to Finnland.
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera palaestinae....   Wed 2 Mar - 5:40

The very best of luck with the eggs Jean-henri.
Cheers,
Brian.
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera palaestinae....   Wed 2 Mar - 5:41

Brian Petrie wrote:
The very best of luck with the eggs Jean-henri.
Cheers,
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Thanks mister Brian ! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera palaestinae....   Wed 2 Mar - 11:39

Peter van Issem wrote:
I have to check, if I have some datas in my File-o-fax from the last years. But i think ,, around 2 months创....but not sure. Mating I observed in late April (one time) and eggs one time in End of May and one time in June. But both times the eggs wasn磘 good! I don磘 incubate them.
After this, I sell the group to Finnland.

Will you be attempting to incubate them this time, Peter?

Nice snake, by the way!
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera palaestinae....   Wed 2 Mar - 22:25

Simon Ball wrote:
Peter van Issem wrote:
I have to check, if I have some datas in my File-o-fax from the last years. But i think ,, around 2 months创....but not sure. Mating I observed in late April (one time) and eggs one time in End of May and one time in June. But both times the eggs wasn磘 good! I don磘 incubate them.
After this, I sell the group to Finnland.

Will you be attempting to incubate them this time, Peter?

Nice snake, by the way!

Simon, Peter did not have palestine like he said, he sold the group to someone..... Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera palaestinae....   Wed 2 Mar - 23:56

Yes Jean-henry is right about this! After some bad years with unfertile eggs, I sold the snakes with alot of Vipers to Finnland. I have never hear that the has breed with them, but I hope it will match in the future!
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera palaestinae....   Thu 3 Mar - 9:28

Oops, sorry. Missed that bit.
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera palaestinae....   Thu 3 Mar - 20:04

Unfortunly I don磘 has breed this species, one of the Vipers I磛e keep but never breed. A friend of mine has breed them years ago. He got more than 40 Eggs from a very large (170 cm) female. Hope for Jean-Henry that he can manage to breed them. A very nice species indeed.
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera palaestinae....   Thu 3 Mar - 23:33

Hehe!!
Here there are from today!:



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PostSubject: Re: Vipera palaestinae....   Fri 4 Mar - 1:51

@jean-henri pastore:

You are a lucky man, action in every cage it looks like *Thumbs Up*

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PostSubject: Re: Vipera palaestinae....   Fri 4 Mar - 2:08

not action in every cages............cause i also have a lot of immatures snakes.......
But with some adults, yes it works LOLLLL
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera palaestinae....   Fri 4 Mar - 5:19

WOW!!, I never tire looking at pictures like that Jean-henri. I see you have two normal patterned snakes, I have a normal male and a striped female, I will be looking for a normel female at this years shows. I like the striped ones, but I love the normal ones.
All the best with them.
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera palaestinae....   Fri 4 Mar - 5:48

Brian Petrie wrote:
WOW!!, I never tire looking at pictures like that Jean-henri. I see you have two normal patterned snakes, I have a normal male and a striped female, I will be looking for a normel female at this years shows. I like the striped ones, but I love the normal ones.
All the best with them.
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I also have some nice striped individuals. Did you buy yours last year at december Hamm show ?

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PostSubject: Re: Vipera palaestinae....   Fri 4 Mar - 5:51

jean-henri pastore wrote:
not action in every cages............cause i also have a lot of immatures snakes.......
But with some adults, yes it works LOLLLL

You are still a luck man. Not all of my snakes have stated to get "jiggy" yet.

Have your snakes been out of hibernation long ?

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PostSubject: Re: Vipera palaestinae....   Fri 4 Mar - 23:16

I do for all my snakes 3 month of hibernation at 7 degrees.
They begin to mate after 2 weeks, cause this winter didn't be so fresh and the snakes began their activity inside the hibernation box.....

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Jean.
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera palaestinae....   Sat 5 Mar - 0:49

Sorry, but I don磘 have any detailed informations about the breeding behaviour and times of my palaestinae from the past. This informatios are lost for me...
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera palaestinae....   Sat 5 Mar - 1:14

Ok Peter, we will see....
I will put a humide box and will see.......
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera palaestinae....   Sat 5 Mar - 4:49

Hi Daniel,
Yes, I did get them at last Decembers Hamm show, I did not get there myself, but a friend picked them up for me. At the moment they eat two large fluffy mice each every five days, they are stunning animals. My normal coloured male is very good natured, (for a palaestinae), but the striped female is like the devil, striking at anything that goes near her.
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera palaestinae....   Sat 5 Mar - 4:55

Brian Petrie wrote:
Hi Daniel,
Yes, I did get them at last Decembers Hamm show, I did not get there myself, but a friend picked them up for me. At the moment they eat two large fluffy mice each every five days, they are stunning animals. My normal coloured male is very good natured, (for a palaestinae), but the striped female is like the devil, striking at anything that goes near her.
Cheers,
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Hi Brian,

Don't worry, your male will change with the age..... Laughing
I think palestine vipers had a similar caracter in comparaison with some cobra......Very inteligent snakes.....
Just becarrefull with them.... Embarassed
My male was like yours at the begining, and he change sudently at the age of one and a half year....

the clothes do not make the man ..... Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera palaestinae....   Sat 5 Mar - 17:05

Thanks for the warning Jean-henri, I will look forward to that day Very Happy
Cheers,
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera palaestinae....   Sun 6 Mar - 17:18

Brian Petrie wrote:
Hi Daniel,
Yes, I did get them at last Decembers Hamm show, I did not get there myself, but a friend picked them up for me. At the moment they eat two large fluffy mice each every five days, they are stunning animals. My normal coloured male is very good natured, (for a palaestinae), but the striped female is like the devil, striking at anything that goes near her.
Cheers,
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Ah in that case i think i bought mine at the same time. I met breeder together with some people from UK that also had booked some palaestinae. And if i'm not wrong he told me he was only picking them up for a friend.

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PostSubject: Re: Vipera palaestinae....   Wed 4 May - 17:39

Some news........:

Female is so big, she's in shed, eggs are coming soon......... bounce
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera palaestinae....   Wed 4 May - 18:11

@Jean-Henri: Nice, thats good news. I need a male ;-)

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PostSubject: Re: Vipera palaestinae....   Wed 4 May - 18:15

That is good news yes. Hope she gives you many eggs JH.
Best of luck.
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PostSubject: Re: Vipera palaestinae....   Mon 23 May - 3:36

she grow, she grow........but when she was going to lay his eggs ...........? Laughing :
We can't see on this pic, but his cloacal is now delated......
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