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PostSubject: Re: Ammodytes: A few photos, a question, a request.   Wed 1 Sep - 20:07

Based on personal experience V. a. montandoni usually reaches 55-60cm in length. Generally females are longer then males. This year a friend of mine caught a stocky male around 57 cm, but I have found most males within 50 to 55cm. Females are within the 55-60 cm range and only once I have seen a female >60cm (62 if I remember correctly).
Scientific literature tells the same for V. a. meridionalis, generally it is smaller then the nominate subspecies, topping at around 60 cm in length. Still, exceptions are to be found: I know of a male around 73 cm in length and very bulky and there are other such examples.
The fact is that these subspecies generally reach smaller maximum lengths then V. a. ammodytes.
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PostSubject: Re: Ammodytes: A few photos, a question, a request.   Thu 2 Sep - 21:41

Well, Tiberiu, that is at least strange, as my montandoni from Bulgaria/Romania are easily about 80cm long, maybe even more. I'll take some photos as soon as they digest their food...
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PostSubject: Re: Ammodytes: A few photos, a question, a request.   Thu 2 Sep - 21:56

As I said, there are exceptions. Or maybe in the wild these snakes never get close to their maximum lengths as they don't last that long for various reasons - I really don't know. Anyway I would love to see some pictures of your monsters. I haven't seen any ammodytes that big, no matter what subspecies. The largest was a male V. a. ammodytes at 78cm.

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PostSubject: Re: Ammodytes: A few photos, a question, a request.   Sat 4 Sep - 8:26

Okay, not to make garbage in this topic - You can see the nose-horneds of mine and talk about length in this topic - CLICK!
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PostSubject: Re: Ammodytes: A few photos, a question, a request.   Sat 16 Oct - 10:31

Maciej Pokrywka wrote:
@Pierre-yves vaucher: Thanks for the info, this is indeed an interesting thing to look at! I have no ability to check them now, as I feed them yesterday night (all took grown ratpups without any problems). Did You observe any complications due to this eye affection in Your meridionalis?

No complications, just completly blind, the "pupille" is always "open" and not really reactive. Both ammodytes meridionalis orange/pink had the same problem. These snakes eaten well because they smell preys. But they where a lot agressive. You can try/test the vision with lamp or moving object from left to right and see what side is rective.
It seem both of your orange ammodytes have this problem.
Take picture of the head from front to see "pupilles" reaction with flash light.
Sorry for deception if it's the case.

With this picture you can see the difference (the right eye is affected)
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PostSubject: Re: Ammodytes: A few photos, a question, a request.   Tue 2 Nov - 4:52

Hi,
Thanks for the post, Pierre. I always thought that such sight is just an effect of the light that is usually more powerful on one of the sides of the snakes head... I checked eyes of my meridionalis females with a flashlight and every eye responded well (I think) to strong light. At least that's what I saw. Anyway, they are eating well, so I don't want to worry for now. Time will tell.

Btw. Beautiful viper You have there! Really! :-)

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